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[blueonion]

Ito na ang magiging all-in-one Music Learning Thread..

Sa mga former students ng Guitar Thread... wala na po yung account ko dun banned na so ito na ang
magiging bagong thread ng mga Musicians na gusto pang maexplore ang mundo ng Musika.

Thread Resource:
1. Music Lessons (Theories and Techniques)
2. MusicSheets / Tabs
3. Mp3 for listening
4. Software Links
5. Learning Materials
6. Music References
7. Musician Information
8. Tips and Advices
9. kung meron pa man bahala na (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I will update this later... Pag wala na masyadong gagawin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If you want to post something... sige post lang...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ho.gif)
LeaChim

[neskafə]

Omigosh, ala nag popost dito.

Anyway, meron bang nakatab/mp3 ng The Storm(Opus 31/Sonata 17) by LV Beethoven. D:

[erickjames21]

so eto na..

i'll be an active poster on this thread..

hehe..

guys..

may alam po ba kaung mga music sheets ng ragnarok?? sa piano o kya sa guitar?

[blueonion]

Pasensya na medyo bz ha..

Erick meron akong alam... hahanapin ko pa sa mga files ko yung nadownload ko dati tapos post ko dito....

BZ pa kasi ako dahil inaasikaso ko yung itatayo kong studio...

Don't worry pag ok na lahat... mag popost na ako....

Nga pala erick alam ko may lumang piano sheet thread dito pwede mong search dito... baka existing pa

[kazuya014]

ako...mag-aaral pa ng guitar O.O
i hope i can learn from here

[Arctic_Circle]

Is it ok to post a link? Eto magandang site for learning music theory, but it's on piano, though.
http://www.musictheory.net/

I think the TS already realizes and knows this, but there's only so much you can learning by reading tips and practicing by yourself. A real-life teacher would definitely be WAAY better and could further your skills in playing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Of course, I have no position or intention to shoot down this idea, which I think is great for experts (tips) and beginners (basics) alike. Those in between, however, have it more complicated than the extremes.

[blueonion]

Ey maganda yang site na yan before dyan din ako nagaral ng music theory....

dyan na develop ang knowledge ko sa cycle of fifths...

Hindi lang pang piano yan... Actually ang problema kaya di maapply ang theory sa guitar
ay dahil di pa memorize ang notes sa fretboard.

Sobrang importante na alam natin ang notes ng fretboard. Maraming bagay pa ang
pwedeng gawin sa guitar bukod sa pagtugtog ng chord shapes/patterns, scale pattern,
riffs, etc.

Well kung gusto nyo matutunan imemeorize ang notes sa guitar sabihin nyo lang. Tutukan ko
kayo para matututo kayo.

Advice to all..

Masarap bumuo ng kanta.. kahit gaano kahirap ang kanta pag nabuo mo masaya. Pero after
mong bumuo ng kanta.. masasabi mo bang magaling ka na sa guitara kung di mo pa talaga
alam ang maraming bagay tungkol dito?. Tandaan nyo kahit di muna kayo bumuo ng kanta sa guitara
at unahin nyo ang kaalaman sa pagguiguitara eventually marami din kayo matutugtog pero
atleast di na masasabing kaunti lang ang alam nyong gawin sa guitar (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

This post has been edited by blueonion: Nov 23 2007, 05:51 AM

[blueonion]

Quotes From The Greats:

“Over all, I think the main thing a musician would like to do is give a picture to the listener of the many wonderful things that he knows of and senses in the universe. . . That’s what I would like to do. I think that’s one of the greatest things you can do in life and we all try to do it in some way. The musician’s is through his music.” - John Coltraine

“Don’t play what’s there, play what’s not there.” - Miles Davis

“I say, play your own way. Don’t play what the public want — you play what you want and let the public pick up on what you doing — even if it does take them fifteen, twenty years.” - Thelonious Monk

“There are four qualities essential to a great jazzman. They are taste, courage, individuality, and irreverence. These are the qualities I want to retain in my music.” - Stan Getz

“Never play anything the same way twice.” - Louis Armstrong

“There is a Japanese visual art in which the artist is forced to be spontaneous. He must paint on a thin stretched parchment with a special brush and black water paint in such a way that an unnatural or interrupted stroke will destroy the line or break through the parchment. Erasures or changes are impossible. These artists must practice a particular discipline, that of allowing the idea to express itself in communication with their hands in such a direct way that deliberation cannot interfere. The resulting pictures lack the complex composition and textures of ordinary painting, but it is said that those who see well find something captured that escapes explanation. This conviction that direct deed is the most meaningful reflections, I believe, has prompted the evolution of the extremely severe and unique disciplines of the jazz or improvising musician. - Bill Evans

[Krungz]

@kuya leachim

matanung ko lang..papanu ba kunin ung fifth root(power chords) ng for example: C#m, Am, Dm, G#? ang alam ko lng kasi na powerchord ay ung C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C,, (sa guitar po ito ah). paturo naman sa kin ung concept ng pagkuha ng powerchords..AFAIk d mu p natuturo un sa dati mung thread dba? heheh

BTW marunung ako bumuo ng kanta..at tingin ko medyo okay din ako maglapat ng tono..pero after a while nakakalimutan ko na lng ung tonong gnawa ko..waaaaaaa @_@

[blueonion]

Dami umaasa ngayon sa chord pattern, chord Book, charts, chord Generator at mga techniques na

sobrang haba ng explanation.

or may nabasa kang mga chords na tulad nito...

Dm7b5,G7(#9/#5),Cm6
Bb13, Gm7(add11), Ab13(b9)

hala ka.. nakakaduling diba.. lalo na kung baguhan ka lang sa mga chords na to..

Anyway dahil tamad ako magpractise.. may isang paraan para mamemorize ang lahat ng chords..

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Bago ang lahat kaunting Theory Muna.....

How chords are made?

Ang isang basic chord ay may 3 notes na galing sa "Major Scale" na tinutugtog ng sabay sabay at

tinatawag itong "Triads".

Example 1: C Major

Cmajor Scale = C D E F G A B C

Major Chord = 1 3 5

so the notes of a C Major chord are: C E G, the 1 3 5 of C major scale

Example 2: G Major
1 3 5
G A B C D E F# G <-- G Major Scale

G Major Chord = G B D
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Adding the Major 7

to do this simply add the 7th note of the Major Scale to your triad

Example 3: CM7
1 3 5 7
C D E F G A B C

CM7 = C E G B

Example 4: AM7

A B C# D E F# G# A <-- A major scale

AM7 = A C# E G#

note: Relax ka lang malapit na tayo sa shortcut (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) sige lang read more
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Converting Your Major Chord To Minor

CM7 to Cm7:

Chord Formulas: Major 7 = 1 3 5 7, minor 7 = 1 b3 5 b7

if CM7 = C E G Bb ; Cm7 is C Eb G Bb

kuha ma na naman siguro (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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More Chord Formulas:

Dominant Chords: dom7 = 1 3 5 b7

C7 = C E G Bb
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Adding Extension:

remember this:
2nd is also 9th, 4th is also 11th, 6th is also 13th

Major7 + Extensions:
M9 = 1 3 5 7 9, CM9 = C E G B D
M#11 = 1 3 5 7 #11, CM#11 = C E G B F#
M13 = 1 3 5 7 13, CM13 = C E G B A

note: don't play M11 it's very dissonant

Dominant7 + Ext:
dom9 = 1 3 5 b7, C9 = C E G Bb D
dom11 = 1 3 5 b7, C11 = C E G Bb F
dom13 = 1 3 5 b7, C13 = C E G Bb A

Add Notes: <- using ext. without the 7th note
add9 = 1 3 5 9
add11 = 1 3 5 11
add13 = 1 3 5 13

Sus4 and Sus2: use 4th or 2nd instead of 3rd
sus4 = 1 4 5
sus2 = 1 2 5

Dim and m7b5:
half-dim or m7b5 = 1 b3 b5 b7, Cm7b5 = C Eb Gb Bb
dim = 1 b3 b5 bb7(6) , Cdim = C Eb Gb A

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Ito na... Mapapansin nyo na kung habang tumutugtog ka iisipin mo lahat ng
Major Scale kada gagawa ka ng chord.. nakakabaliw yun diba?

So let's use this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
By using this shapes, you'll be able to form hundreds of chords (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ok diba? game...

(IMG:http://www.leachim.net/chordsgalore.gif)

So 12 steps lang... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

1. Play the the notes inside the RED CIRCLE
this are the 1(Root) 3 5 that forms a BASIC MAJOR CHORD/Triad
2. Remember that this are movable chords.. as long as you know your root you'll figure it out.
3. You may try to remove duplicated notes such as root, 5th, so that you can reach
the extensions
4. Add the 7th. You'll notice that it is possible to create more than 1 form of Major7, minor7 and dom7 chords.
5. Master the first form, the E form before moving to the next form.
6. After you memorize all the location of the 7th inside the focus area in the first form, Try to add another extension. This time try to add the 9(2) and play it
7. After you memorize the location of the 9th, Try minor keys by flatting the 3rd and 7th. Also 9th is the next note after the root so it's not that hard to add (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
8. Now try to form a min7b5, dim, augmented chords.
m7b5 = 1 b3 b5 b7
dim = 1 b3 b5 bb7 or 1 b3 b5 6
aud = 1 3 #5
9. Now memorize the location of 11(4), 13(6) and try to play it. You may remove the 5th note.
10. Move to the next Form and be sure to master it. Don't forget to stay only inside the focus area.
11. Try to combine the forms.
12. Find a Jazz Song, Bossa Nova and play the chords

note: medyo di pa ok pagkakaexplain ko.. medyo pagod kasi ako pero aayusin ko pa to. Pero sana may matutunan kayo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Ito yung iba pang chords na pwede mong gamitin sa taas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Major (M): 1-3-5
Madd9: 1-3-5-9
M7: 1-3-5-7
M6:1-3-5-6
M7b5: 1-3-b5-7
M7+: 1-3-#5-7
M9: 1-3-5-7-9
M6/9: 1-3-5-6-9
M9b5: 1-3-b5-7-9
M6/9b5: 1-3-b5-6-9
M13: 1-3-5-7-9-13
M9+11: 1-3-5-7-9-+11
M6/9+11: 1-3-5-6-9-+11

Minor (m): 1-b3-5
madd9: 1-b3-5-9
m7: 1-b3-5-b7
m6:1-b3-5-6
m(M7): 1-b3-5-7
m7b5: 1-b3-b5-b7
m9: 1-b3-5-b7-9
m(M9): 1-b3-5-7-9
m6/9: 1-b3-5-6-9
m7/11: 1-b3-5-b7-11
m11: 1-b3-5-b7-9-11
m13: 1-b3-5-b7-9-13

Dominant 7th (7): 1-3-5-b7
7b5: 1-3-b5-b7
+7: 1-3-#5-b7
9th:1-3-5-b7-9
7b9: 1-3-5-b7-b9
7#9: 1-3-5-b7-#9
9b5: 1-3-b5-b7-9
+9: 1-3-#5-b7-9
7b9b5: 1-3-b5-b7-b9
7#9b5: 1-3-b5-b7-#9
+7b9: 1-3-#5-b7-b9
+7#9: 1-3-#5-b7-#9
7/6:1-3-5-b7-13
7/11: 1-3-5-b7-11
13th: 1-3-5-b7-9-13
11th: 1-3-5-b7-9-11
7/6/11: 1-3-5-b7-11-13
+11: 1-3-5-b7-9-+11
11b9: 1-3-5-b7-b9-11
13b9: 1-3-5-b7-b9-13
13#9: 1-3-5-b7-#9-13
13b5: 1-3-b5-b7-9-13
13/11: 1-3-5-b7-9-11-13
13+11: 1-3-5-b7-9-+11-13
13/11b9: 1-3-5-b7-b9-11-13

Suspended 2nd (sus2): 1-2-5
Suspended 4th (sus4): 1-4-5
7sus4: 1-4-5-b7
9sus4: 1-4-5-b7-9
13sus4:1-4-5-b7-9-13

Augmented (+): 1-3-#5

Diminished (o): 1-b3-b5
o7: 1-b3-b5-b77
o7susb13: 1-b3-bb7-b13

[blueonion]

So basically a C5,G5,A5, etc, etc ay fifth harmony.... or 1-5

Ginagamit yan madalas sa rock... as a substitute for a full chord

it means it can be a minor chord or a major chord... depende sa chord progression mo...

Tinatawag din yan ng iba na Power Chords... well a 1-5 chord is not actually a chord but a substitute for a full chord... chord must always have a triad of 1-3-5 harmony to be called a chord...

without the 3rd or the 7th you cannot identify a chord wether it is a minor, major or a dominant chord...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Krungz]

@_@ Hala ka....

BTW marami pong salamat kuya leachim ^_____^

[ishigami]

PADAAN LANG AKO IDOL , mukang konti nlang nag viview ng neto.. KEEP THE MUSIC FLOWIN !! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/woohoo.gif)

[blueonion]

Bago lang to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... okie lag as long as may area kung saan pwede magtanong lahat ng musikero (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Ghós†Ålker]

ang laking tulong ng chord theory na iyon sa 1st page.

May request lng ako, pede mo ba ako bgyan ng simplified explanation sa delay settings.
dotted 8th note, quarter note etc.

BTW, I'm using zoom g2.
Ang ginagawa ko lng kasi ay pakinggan ko yung songs tapos tap-tap lng hanggang maging kasabay ng timing.

Pag may time ako bigay ako link nung isang song nay may delay settings.


More power kuya Michael.

[blueonion]

Thanx Ghost...

Di ko kasi masasabi ang tamang settings e... usually depende sa tempo at sa effects na din... well the easiest way is actually to tap ur foot.. well ang usually settings ko kasi ay 3/4 of a second... or 3/4 of a beat with 20%-30% Feedback....

Then sobrang kaunting kaunting reverb.. wag kang gagamit ng masyadong mataas na reverb.. kasi may delay ka na... kahit 5-10% reverb ok na... then taas mo yung presence ng EQ mo...

Check mo tong isa sa mga old record ko...
www.leachim.net/sounds/f2s.wma

[Arctic_Circle]

For guitar players/learners...HTH.

http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20040206.html

[blueonion]

For guitar players... don't go there.. it's incomplete (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

They will just teach you patterns that won't go anywhere in the end...

Actually this is better (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

http://www.dolmetsch.com/theoryintro.htm

Tsaka wag nakayo lumayo pa... I can teach you enough things.. para magadvance kayo sa guitar

This post has been edited by blueonion: Nov 25 2007, 04:23 PM

[Evil_killer...]

kuya nkbli n ako elctrc guitar ung 80k

wahahaaha

loko lng

wala p akong time pra bumili hehe

[blueonion]

learn to sight read rhythms and never miss a note/beat again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Recommended for all instrument and a must for drummers...

Sight-Read Any Rhythm
http://rapidshare.com/files/71735256/Sight...rk_Phillips.pdf

This post has been edited by blueonion: Nov 27 2007, 07:57 AM

[blueonion]

Up ko lang to..

Para sa mga nagrerequest ng chords... d2 na kayo magpost (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[clive09]

Chords ng "So close - Jon McLaughlin" meron kayo? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[nath]

Hehe, e2 pala yung thread mo... Salamat nga pala ulit dun sa chords na binigay mo.. di ko pa mapraktis kasi putol string nung gitara ko pero mamayang hapon na presentation nun...

I thought I knew a lot about guitar playing until I read the post on page 1... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/e2.gif)

Medyo babasahin ko muna, sabagay mahilig din naman ako mag self study...

BTW, sana post ka po ng mga images ng mga chords or kahit tab lang thanks...

[blueonion]

What do you mean by Chord Images... nung specific song?

Kung parang chord chart (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) nope di ako magpost dito...

Yung last post ko about chords is enough to produce thousands of chord voicing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

@Clive

Sige bukas check ko yan... at matutuwa ako dahil song ni John MacLaughlin yan...
may natutulog na kasi eh hehehe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) antay mo na lang post ko (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Oops Jon Mclaughlin is a singer... sorry kala ko yung John Mclaughlin na Guitarist... anyway sige bukas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by blueonion: Dec 5 2007, 02:07 AM

[vanilla]

kuya hingi lang ng tulong dun sa last na lesson natin through yahoo messenger...

sabi mo sa kin try kong hanapin lahat ng Cmajor [c-e-g-b] sa fretboard... gagawin ko rin ba ito sa ibang chords? sa ano anong chords?

[StillDaggerX]

Do you know any good lead guitar practice songs?

Tagal ko na di naguguitar, tumigas na pinky ko XD

[blueonion]

@Vanilla

Gamitin mo yung Chord Lesson ko sa taas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Then practise this chords...
1. Maj7, min7
2. Maj9, min9
3. suspended 2, suspended 4, dominant 7 (ex. G7,B7,A7,D7)
4. min7b5, dim, dominant 7b9
5. Aug, dominant 7#5
6. Maj6, min6, M7#11, 6/9
7. dominant7b5, dominant7b9, dominant 7#9 <--- altered dominant chords (ex. B7alt)
8. Slash Chords (Example: CM7/E, D/B, E7/G, etc etc)

Yan pag nakuha mo na yung idea paano inconstruct yang mga chords na yan.. go to go ka na sa halos lahat ng kanta... Kuhain mo yung logic ng pagconstruct... at yung movement ng notes from one chord to another. That way matatandaan mo yung voicing nung lahat ng chords. Usually kasi nagbabago ang chord kahit isang note lang ang gumalaw.

@StillDaggerX

Pwede mong buuin mga kanta nila...

Joe Satriani, Van Halen, Zakk Wyled, Paul Gilbert (Mr.Big at di yung Racer X pa sya) , Jimi Hendrex
Skidrow, etc etc

[blueonion]

@Clive

ito request mo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) dinugo ako dyan hehe..

So Close - John Mclaughlin
Chords by: LeaChim
blue_onion21@yahoo.com

Intro:
Eadd9 | G#m7 | C#m7 | C6 - CM7
Emaj | Esus4 - B/D# | Emaj

Eadd9 - B/D# - C#m7 - Eadd9
You’re in my arms
Esus4 - Bsus4/E - Eadd9
And all the world is calm
A6 - G#m7/B - C#m7 - B6 - Amaj7
The music playing on for only two
B/A -G#m7 - A6
So close together
Bsus4 - Bmaj
And when I’m with you
B/A - G#m7 - Bbm7b6 - Bsus4 - B7 - B9
So close to feeling alive

B7 - E/C#
A life goes by
Esus4 - A6 - B13 - Eadd9
Romantic dreams will stop
A6 - G#m7 - C#m7 - B6 - Amaj7
So I bid mine goodbye and never knew
B/A - G#m7 - A6
So close was waiting,
Bsus4 - Bmaj
waiting here with you
B/A - G#m7 - Bbm7b6 - Bsus4 -B9
And now forever I know
B - F#m7 - B7
All that I wanted to hold you
B7/A - Gm11
So close

bass(D# - D) - C7

C#/B - A#m7 - B - C#sus4 - C#7/G#
So close to reaching that famous happy end
C#/B - A#m7 - B - C#sus4 - C#7/G#
Almost believing this was not pretend
C#/B - A#m7 - B - C#sus4 - Ddim - D#m7 - G#7
And now you’re beside me and look how far we’ve come
Csus4 - C7sus4 - F#maj - F#sus4 - F#maj
So far we are so close


Instrumental:
F# - A#m7/F - D#m7
F# | A#m7/F - D#m7
C6 | C7alt - Bdim
A | E/G# - F#m7
E6 | D#7alt - Ddim
Amaj - Dadd9/A - C#m7/A - Dmaj/A
Aadd9/E - Dadd9/E - Eadd9/E - Dadd9/E
F#maj - Bmaj9#11 - Cdim - C#9 - C#13 - F#maj

D#m7 - C#maj - Bmaj - F#6/9
How could I face the faceless days
D#m7 - F7/A - Bbadd9 - C#7
If I should lose you now?
C#sus4/B - A#m7 - B - C#sus4 - C#7
We’re so close to reaching that famous happy end
C#sus4/B - A#m7 - B - C#sus4 - C#7
And almost believing this was not pretend
C#/B - A#m7 - B - Cm7b5 - - C#sus4 - Ddim - D#m7 - C#6 - B6
Let’s go on dreaming for we know we are
C#sus4
So close
C#maj
So close
F# - A#m7/F - D#m7 -
And still so far

Ending: Dmaj13 - Bm6 - F#maj

[blueonion]

correction:
Instrumental:
F# - A#m7/F - D#m7
F# | A#m7/F - D#m7
C#6 | C7alt - Bdim <--
A | E/G# - F#m7
E6 | D#7alt - Ddim
Amaj - Dadd9/A - C#m7/A - Dmaj/A
Aadd9/E - Dadd9/E - Eadd9/E - Dadd9/E
F#maj - Bmaj9#11 - Cdim - C#9 - C#13 - F#maj

[`SanctumSanctoru...]

@All who sing in a choir well...

I need help! Finals na kasi ng contest eh, and I need to know how you guys sing the right notes throughout songs. Me and my classmates were already memorizing the song, and doing everything we could, but I don't quite get all the notes yet... I've been practicing for a while now, and still don't get the notes. Third week na ata to. Tumataas ang tono sa parte na dapat bumaba, at bumababa sa parte na dapat tumaas. I think I'm a bit tone-deaf. Pero nung pinakinggan ko yung recording, napansin ko na nagkakamali nga ako. How do I remedy this? I wasn't like this before Eliminations...

I also want to know how you guys soften your voices, since masyadong malakas yung akin. As in, my voice overpowers that of the Altos and Sopranos in parts where I should lower my voice a bit more...

All help will be appreciated, as long as it's really helpful and not something to flame me or what... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Please don't tell me to get voice lessons. I don't have anymore time for them since the finals of the contest is tomorrow! ...and I have to review pa, may periodicals rin kami bukas...

From: Sintunadong Bass. Ako yun.

You know, just the thought of making a lot of mistakes just makes me want to stick to playing the guitar forever and never learn how to play other instruments, or learn how to sing.

This post has been edited by `SanctumSanctorum~: Dec 6 2007, 06:51 PM